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<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>*<b>Froggie asked:</b>*<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>*<b>His paternal
grandmother has one champion listed not only as HER own grandfather on her
mother's side, but also her great-grandfather on her father's sides (both
paternal AND maternal), and her great-great-grandfather on her mother's sides
(paternal and maternal.) This same sire is also listed on this dog's mother's
side, going back as far as great-great grandfather on the paternal side.</b>*<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Okay – this is going to get complicated but I will try
to explain – yes, this is a form of line breeding and everything is
pretty much in what I would consider the *<b>safe zone</b>* except maybe the
doubling up of the great-great-grandfather of his paternal grandmother.
However, without physically looking at the pedigree, I can’t really envision
it, since I don’t know the dogs. That doubling up would have occurred
(using Norm as a sample dog at age 1 ˝ now and backtracking) six generations back
and at the rate we breed that would be over 20 years ago. The kennel you
mentioned in your previous post produced a lot of nice dogs and they are in
many pedigrees of current show dogs. The owner of the kennel is now very old
(I think she is still alive) and no longer breeding bassets. I don’t
know if someone has taken over her kennel/dogs but I don’t think so. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>*<b>And the breeder of
this boy wasn't at all interested to know that rescue now had him. So much for
a great pedigree and a "reputable" breeder (which I'm guessing she
isn't...)</b>*<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>If the breeder wasn’t
interested that he is in rescue and didn’t take him back, then I would
not consider her reputable – <u>by my standards. </u>I know that we
would certainly come and get him if he was of our breeding, but we work really
hard to avoid being in that situation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>*<b>So that leads me to
another question--how does a breeder get access to such great lineage without
being a show breeder?</b>*<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Good question and I am not
sure I have a good answer, but there are a couple of possibilities, some of
which would be more evident by looking at the pedigree. It is important to remember
that a contract is only as good as the people who sign it. That is why it is
so important, as a breeder, to thoroughly get to know your puppy buyers and
keep in touch with them on a regular basis throughout the life of the dog. I
am not sure when AKC started having limited registrations, but one possibility
is that a puppy was sold with an agreement to spay/neuter on a regular
registration and the purchaser did not spay/neuter per the contract and the dog
was bred. Another possibility is that a puppy was sold as a show puppy to
someone new in showing, maybe they finished the dog (would still have the
original kennel name) and then they indiscriminately bred the dog. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>So how do we, as breeders
prevent this from happening to us (and I am speaking *<b>us</b>* personally)?? We
co-own any dog that we sell as a show dog and retain all breeding decisions,
according to our contract. As a result of the co-ownership, any puppies
resulting from the breeding of that dog must have our signatures for them to be
registered. Also, we make a point to physically see these dogs on a regular
basis. All pet puppies are sold on a spay/neuter contract, micro-chipped to us
(we are just starting this) and registered to us (with the new AKC rules, we do
this so our kennel name cannot be removed from the registration), then a
limited registration (including our kennel name) is transferred to the new
owner upon veterinarian statement of spay/neuter. Some breeders spay/neuter
their puppies very young before they are placed in pet homes – we are not
comfortable with that very early spay/neuter procedure, so we don’t do
that. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I hope this helps answer the
questions and doesn’t make it clear as mud. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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