<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">I would like to contribute to this discussion but my viewpoint is a little different and I am a bit leery.</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">That said, I do not believe hitting dogs being held by an owner, on a table being examined, in grooming, or in the Vet's office or grooming establishment is appropriate 99% OF THE TIME.</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">There is a 1% leeway here and never in front of an owner never never never never no matter what the dog has done, did, or plans to do, NEVER.</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Does this mean Techs and Vets smack your dog around? No.</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">The only time I have hit dogs has been when they made a serious and concerted effort to do me serious harm. A lunge at the face in close quarters after being warned repeatedly (You know "cut it out" "settle" "Oh what a GOOD DOG") </font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">I know a Basset who bit one of our receptionists quite badly when she leaned down to put a kennel leash on her.</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">I know a cocker who bit the groomer very seriously in the face (inside the cheek even) when she leaned down to put a leash on him. (He eventually bit the grandkid and was put to sleep.) This same cocker bit me three times up the arm in the amount of time it took me to put my hand in the kennel and yank it out.) Neither were hit.</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Dogs attacking are unbelievably fast. Cats are faster.</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">I can count on one scarred hand the number of dogs I have smacked hard for biting. Two of them are my own. It is difficult NOT to react when a dog lunges for your face or connects with your hand.</font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Most of the time, patience and calmness wins. Not always. Some breeds (not named here) are really really difficult and apt to bite with enthusiasm and dedication. </font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">All I can say is, </font></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">If someone smacks one of my dogs I want to know what happened BEFORE I kill the offender. There may be mitigating circumstances. Or not.</font></font></div>
<p><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">MomPerson, with scars to prove my theories, to Nigel, Llewis, Conley and Cooper</font></font></p>
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