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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I knew it was another name but for the life of me
couldn't think of it. First I did say I only use it on puppies that are too over
baring.I don't roll them on the ground I roll them over in my arms,they become
use to getting belly rubs like this,then there is no aggression. It does work
for puppies but I say again an older dog is dangerous and if this is what you
do don't do it in anger,and have a full face muzzle on him. It
sounds like you have Bazzle's number on this and how best to handle it just let
us know how it works out for the both of you.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>