<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><DIV>Oh lord. I'm gonna get flamed but here goes.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Let me try to start off by saying that I mean no offense to those folks that crate. My mother (may her memory be for blessing) ALWAYS crated her dogs and thought I was a lunatic for not doing so.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I do NOT crate. I simply don't. Snoopy actually loves a good crate, he'll curl up in there happy as a clam, but I don't want one in my living room. Gracie and LuLu will cry hysterically if you put them in one, rescued puppy mill breeders who have spent FAR TOO MUCH TIME in a cage. I just don't do it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So, mine don't pee or poop in the house (other than Gracie's occasional, an ever rarer, accident). I watch them. If I have to leave them then someone else watches them. If someone (SNOOPY!!!!!, it's always SNOOPY) gets out of hand they get a timeout in the office. Heck, half the time I even give him a peanut butter kong to keep him busy in there.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So, what if you ban the crate and try confining her in your home office or even your bathroom or kitchen or mudroom with a baby gate when you can't watch the puppy? Does she do better?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Just a thought from the ever clueless momPerson</DIV></div></body></html>