<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default">I do not see a reason that the Vet cannot take a biopsy without debulking the mass. Needle aspirates are notoriously unreliable because you get such a tiny sample.</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default"> </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default">I would want to know what kind of tumor? Is is cancerous? What kind of cancer? Is it spreading? How does he know he cannot remove it with clean margins without looking?</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default">They told me they could not get the part of Quiller's tumor that had broken through the floor of the cranial vault because it was "where he lived" but the surgeon reached in there and tapped it and it fell out.Not with clean margins-- there were microscropic bits left which of course made it return, but it took almost 2 years before it was terminal. They had given him, with surgery, 4 to6 months.</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default">I just think he is doing everything he knows how to do but I would still want someone who specializes in cancer to look at it, and I would still request a biopsy.</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default"> </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default">It's SO hard to know what to do especially as they get older.</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default">I am absolutely convinced there is something really wrong with Llewis. I do not like the way he looks, the rattiness of his coat, the constant vomiting, --- but his attitude is good and happy 95% of the time. He loves being with Doc, and he will be 8 next month. My heart says he is fine. My gut tells me something else.</div>
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<br><font color="midnightblue" face="Comic Sans MS, sans-serif">Oh, Elizabeth...I am so sorry to read about Elsinore's issues, especially her "not just a fatty cycst" lump. You really <b>do</b> have a lot to discuss with Ken. I think I would allow them to aspirate the lump. While it isn't actual slices of tumor itself, it should give them some idea of what is going on. Most benign cysts present one way on aspirate, malignant ones, much differently. I wouldn't go the "debulking" route. Nothing would really be accomplished and it sounds like too many risks and complications. I would probably let them do the chest x-rays as well. At least cancer in her lungs could be ruled out. I think some medication to take the edge off her anxiety would be helpful for her <i>and</i> you. Other than that, it's a wait and see sort of thing until her blood results are back. One can always hope that it is something like her thyroid which can be helped by supplementing it.
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<div>I am one who doesn't like to borrow trouble. I believe in compassionate care - doing all one can to ease pain but not unnecessarily prolong life if there is no quality involved. I think you know your Elsinore well and between the two of you...and Ken, of course, will know what to do. Auntie Sandy Gaston may have some holistic suggestions as well. Reach out to her. </div>
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<div>Our Bart kitty has an oral tumor which came out of the blue. We thought he had some dental issues which required a cleaning and possible tooth/teeth removal. They discovered the tumor, almost always malignant, when they were prepping him for surgery. We're devastated of course. We've been treating him with a stem cell supplement for pets called StemPet. I take the human version for my fibromyalgia. We mash it up and add it to his morning and evening canned food. He's still eating well and enjoying his life so we're taking it day by day. When and if, however, he appears to be in pain or having difficulty functioning, then we'll send him off to the Bridge. </div>
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<div>Know that my thoughts, prayers and healing drool are with you and Elsinore...</div>
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