[Dailydrool] Dailydrool Digest, Vol 578, Issue 2

Tue May 14 15:36:23 PDT 2019

 Senior Dental...….I just had this very discussion with my vet today. My boy is almost 12 and he has some tartar but not too terrible. He too had a dental a couple of years ago and it took him a long time to come out of it. My vet does not like to put seniors under for dentals. He told me if the dog's breath got too terrible that he would prescribe an antibiotic that would kill the infection and the problem would be solved for awhile. The tartar would be there, but that is preferable to endangering him with a procedure. The antibiotic could be prescribed as needed. Usually he says this handles the situation for quite some time.
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  1. Dental on a senior? (Georgia Powers)
  2. Dearest Paisley (Dale Rutz)
  3. Eugene (Dale)
  4. Re: Dental on a senior? (houndsabound at cfl.rr.com)
Hi— I already posted this question on the Facebook Drool but feel closer to this original group. Eugene is 13 years old, in very good shape and just had his senior bloodwork done which his vet characterized as “perfect.” He has had dentals about every two years his whole life —his last was two years ago when he was 11. At that time I felt it would be his last. He seemed to me to have a harder time returning to normal after it but was his old self in a few days. I’ve tried to keep up with brushing but alas his teeth are pretty bad again. Our vet thinks it would not be unduly dangerous for him to have a dental but for some reason I am feeling very uncomfortable with the idea. I would never forgive myself if something happened to him as a result of a basically elective procedure. The responses on Facebook were pretty split between those who felt the risks from bad teeth outweighed the risks of anesthesia and those who would’t risk it on a dog his age. . There was a particularly tragic story of a healthy 14 year dying after the procedure which obviously is my worst case scenario. I’d appreciate any thoughts folk here would like to share. Thanks so much—Have been on the drool since we got Eugene almost 13 years ago and have always respected the knowledge of the members. Georgia and Eugene
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Love n drool from Chomperwith Snoopy who is taking (another!!) nap and will be 14 next monthHi it’s dale

I trust my vet.  Right after Snoopy turned 13 he had a tooth abscess, his face swelled up over night and off to the vet we went and she put him in antibiotics and scheduled him to have it out.  She took out the one across from it too, didn’t like the way it looked and didn’t want to have to do this again

Snoopy had to go under again in January to deal with an eye which had succumbed to glaucoma and had painful high pressure. Once again. No choice. 

Snoopy is partially paralyzed  in one back leg.  And the other one doesn’t work so hot either so after he has anesthesia he can’t walk for a while. Basically goes down in the back till the drugs wear off.  Then he is fine.  Or at least so far he has been

I’d trust your vet, or else get a new vet you do trust.  And if they say he needs it do it, you don’t want him to have a tooth abscess or anything. And gum disease affects their heart

Good luck
Dale
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Georgia,
I can certainly understand and share your concern with doing a dental on a senior.  I feel that every time we 
Have to do it.  Being a home for seniors here,  I have put many through the procedure, many with extractions and many with no extractions.  Of course if there are extractions, it means longer under anesthesia.  
We have not had any bad outcomes except for a couple hounds come out of it worse than others.  You cannot predict it, and even if they did well the time before,  it may changes (at least with one of mine) how they come out as they age.
But I will tell you,  I am adamant about dentals with seniors.  
My first senior Basset Sunny,  (who taught me seniors were the way to go!) ended up dying because I had let a dental go and her tooth had abscessed (she did not tell us) and the infection got into her system and she became septic.    16 years later, it still tears me up to think I could have maybe had her longer if I had only been more proactive with her teeth, and also saved her the suffering if how she passed. 
So while everyone knows a bad story of anesthesia,  there is also a bad story of not taking care of their teeth. 

Unless there is a good medical reason to not do it,  I would.    
Just my 2 cents.

Drool to Eugene!

Wen and the Bounders

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